(Collins), Margaret?
Birth Name | (Collins), Margaret? |
Gender | female |
Narrative
Based on the Irish naming convention, "2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother".
Margaret is 2nd in William's family but we can't tell if there was another daughter before Margaret in Thomas' families.
Families
Family of Collins, William? and (Collins), Margaret? |
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Married | Husband | Collins, William? ( * + ... ) | ||||||||||||
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Assuming for now that these Collins who came from Sligo, Ireland and married into the same Myers & Shafers family are related. Another Collins in the tree of "Helen Peck Huersch", who appears in photos with my grandmother, Lela Myers McRoberts, is "Robert Collins" b~1800. Lived in Lockridge, Jefferson, IA (between Bloomingdale & Des Moines, IA). Some of the same given names: Robert, William, Maria, Jane, Sarah. See in tree here - https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/104818087/person/410040066451/facts [After much research, appears Helen Huersch's husband worked with Jim McRoberts in the railroad office] A single marriage online for a William & Margaret: William Collins and Margaret Leihy 12 Nov 1797, Cloyne, Cork, Ireland (Catholic). Witness: John Hogue & Garret O'Brien , by Rev. Jos Clancy. The only source I have found for an origin in Sligo, Ireland is the late Janice Casselman who was told that by long time Collins researcher, the late Beatrice Collins, granddaughter of James Collins (b.1826 Sligo, Ireland). Credible family lore. How to reconcile with Eliza Collins "born in Dublin, Ireland 1823"?) Dublin may have been only the port of departure from Ireland. Daughter Agnes death cert has "County Demar, Ireland" which does not exist - could be Dromore or Doomore in Sligo. Beatrice’ father, Andrew Broder Collins, was named after the respected merchant and elected representative, Andrew Broder of Dundas. Andrew Broder’s father William came from Kilfree, Sligo, and was born in Ballymote, Sligo, which is adjacent (3 miles from) Doomore. It’s possible the families knew each other in Sligo, or at least knew each others hometowns.
John and Elizabeth Collins live in Osnabruck Twp, Stormont, Ontario, and came much earlier - before 1824 and practiced Universalism.
Related?
The 1749 Census of County Sligo, Diocese of Elphin, has a single Collins: "pg 410 Collins, Patrick" but he Catholic DNA match to Kilcullen's from Sligo. There were Kilcullen's in Dromore.
Curious Naturalization Record - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9SG-4949-K?i=230&cc=2040051&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A481H-W7ZM
Collins in Achonry: Patrick Igo married Anne Collins 7th? Jan 1835. The Christy & Robinson families in Williamsburg came from Co. Armagh, Ireland.
Both A William Collins and a Thomas Collins are in early tax records of Crumlin, Dublin, Ireland, plus one William Collins there married and had children by Jane:
Possible theory to explain why they were protestant and I have no Irish DNA - they were immigrants from Wales or England, stationed there or given land in lieue of money for military service. So the Collins may have been in Ireland for generations. "Edward Cooper, who owned Markree Castle, had a shooting lodge in the mountain in the 1600s above Dromore West. He was a cornet, the lowest rung of commissioned cavalry officers in the British army. When the Cromwellian wars ended and the Crown restored, there was no money to pay the soldiers who fought. The soldiers were given small holdings of land in Ireland as payment instead of cash. Cooper was in Coote’s regiment (Welsh) and most of the soldiers received land in this area. The soldiers were not anxious to come to Ireland at the time. Cooper then bought their shares of land cheaply and made an estate, first in Limerick, and then bought plots in Sligo from the soldiers he knew in Coote’s regiment. There were big parties in Cooper’s Lodge, especially during shooting season, for all of Cooper’s visiting friends. The last caretaker in Cooper’s Lodge was murdered more than 100 years ago. He was beaten up and left in the street, so a policeman came along and investigated. The man lay dying and the policeman leaned down and put his ear to the man’s face. The man said something to the policeman and then passed away. It was never known what the policeman was told. The lodge is in ruins now."
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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Collins, William | 1798 | 1870-08-00 |
Collins, John | 1798 | 1883-05-10 |
Collins, Thomas | about 1804 | 1874 |
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