McCrobert, John? 1
Birth Name | McCrobert, John? |
Gender | male |
Narrative
Based upon nothing more than that he is the only McCrobert in the 1684 Parish Enumeration. At the time, Minnigaff may have been part of Wigtownshire. "John" is also frequent in our line.
Following is a variety of references to McCrobert's in the area since 1552:
Note here pg.26, explains Kirkinner was mislabelled and sent with Kirkcudbright lists. John McRobbert and Pat. McRobbert in Parish List of 1684 at farm "Little Arreise" (pg.31) Note that wives followed husbands in the lists (see Whithorn), and Bessie Aikin follows John McRobert. Jennet Kilpatrick follows Pat. McRobert. Also, sons follow fathers (John below Pat.)
Assuming Patrick McRoberts is the father of John:
1) John McRobert appears in the 1691 Hearth Tax List, but not Patrick. (Little Aries is next to the "Machars of Galloway" and just north of Whithorn).
2) In the 1684 List, Alexander, John live on Cotland Farm, next to Bladnoch, while Stephen McRobert lives in Torhouse (2 miles west of Bladnoch). They are all unmarried. Another John McRobert lives in Glenturke with "Jannet Doual"[McDoual in Cotland] following (and no children - might be married), 2 miles north of Bladnoch. In 1691 Hearth List, Alexander McRobert and Alexander McIlmine are living at Cotland.
3) No reference to Patrick McRobert at all in the OPR's (1694+). "Little Aries" is a small farm next to Knockeffrick, nw of Sorbie and 7 miles south of Bladnoch.
http://wvancestry.com/ReferenceMaterial/Files/Scottish_Record_Society_-_Parish_Lists_for_Wigtownshire_and_Minnigaff_-_1684.pdf
, and nice transcription with historical notes here. Note numerous McRoberts:
https://mckeefamiliesfromdonegal.com/mckee-family-from-donegal/exploring-mckee-roots-in-galloway/wigtonshire-parish-lists-1684/
A dynamic google map I made of the locations of all McCrobert's in Kirkinner's earliest records:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1UZFGBmw6adJ-TBDUCWLfnccRyovFLDQ&ll=54.842171508014225%2C-4.497013426660148&z=13
Another McRobert in Dumfrieshire (north Galloway now) was the famous Covenanter Martyr "Andrew M'Robert"
story here -
http://drmarkjardine.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/tales-of-drunkenness-and-cruelty-in-1685-lags-shooting-of-the-kirkconnell-martyrs/
Has a tombstone in Twynholm kirkyard: "Here lyes Andrew M'Robert, who was surprised and shot to death in the parish of Tongueland, bu Grier of Lagg, for his adherence to Scotland's Reformation Convenants, National and Solemn League, 1685"
These M'Roberts also signed the 22 Apr, 1638 Borgue Covenant:
Thomas M'Crobert
James M'Crobat
Wm. M'Crobat
Robert M'Robat
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924029476003/cu31924029476003_djvu.txt
In the early OPR's there's a whole other McCrobert clan in Twynholm, Kirkudbright , probably related:
John, Robert, James, Thomas
, and James had a son Andrew 20 Apr 1699.
Mentioned in 1691-1695 Hearth Tax Records "John Mcrobert thr" (perhaps Glenturk, Wigtown) and "Alexander McRobert thr" (perhaps Cotland, Wigtown)[ same place as "Alexander Mcilmyne" ], and especially, "Payd of Dalreigles subt [subscriveit] List Thomas Crobert thr [there] " in Kirkinner Parish. "Stephen Crobert in Torhouse Culloch,"
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/historical-tax-rolls/hearth-tax-records-1691-1695/hearth-tax-records-wigtownshire?display=transcription
1613 Kirkcudbr. B. Rec. II 126.
Decernis John McCrobert and Thomas Bell to deliuer to William Fullartoun elder ane meikill pot quhilk thai ressauit for John Andersones ponie or ten merkis therfoir
Another official register in Latin shows "Jac. M'Crobert" in "Balmakcamble" 1609. (Some place in Kirkcudbright)
In Mochrum Park Charters 24 March 1552/3, Andrew Dunbar of Loch as heir...witness "Ninian McCrobert"
"Wigtownshire Charters" ed. R.C.Reid, Edinburgh, for the Scottish History Society, 1960.
In the same document, a reference to "Patrick McRogart smith" in 1537. Transcription error? 'smith occupation?
---> Mochrum Park is 5 miles west of Bladnoch:
https://deriv.nls.uk/dcn23/1266/1379/126613796.23.pdf
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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Birth | about 1650 | Kirkinner, Wigtownshire, Scotland | ||
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Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | McCrobert, Patrick | about 1620 | ||
Mother | Kilpatrick, Jennet | |||
McCrobert, John? | about 1650 | |||
Sister | McCrobert, Jennet | about 1650 |
Families
Family of McCrobert, John? and Aikin, Bessie |
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Married | Wife | Aikin, Bessie ( * + ... ) | |||||||||||||||||||||
Narrative |
tentative family based on nothing more than LDS transcribed Parish records for Wigtown. Assuming all McCroberts are children of John. Janet McCrobert who married Patrick Rob 1608 was daughter of John:
Wife could be Agnes - http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?dtext=all&query=-Yogh-ard
http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?plen=98656&startset=94498224&dtext=dost&query=Resav
This marriage record in Kirkinner is probably another brother - James McCrobert "of Wigton" who had daughter Rachel 5 Sep 1697 might be the oldest. |
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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McCrobert, James | about 1675 | |
McCrobert, Thomas | about 1680 | |
McCrobert, Stephen | about 1680 | |
McCrobert, William | about 1680 | |
McCrobert, John | about 1685 | |
McCrobert, Janet | about 1690 |